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>> Yeah, well, actually to
sell kites, you better know how

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to market because nobody needs kites.

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They need clothes or property if you're
real estate, but they don't need kites.

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So, I think that was probably
the best education for me was --

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well, I did do -- I completed high school.

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My mom was so happy, I barely made it.

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So, I wasn't a real -- on the educational
side, but -- and I did do two years of college,

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but I opened my business at
19, so before I graduated.

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So -- but I think I have a PhD; I was
poor, hungry and driven for success

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and I really think that is one of the keys.

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Actually, by the time I had traveled and done my
business in Japan, I had learned by the school

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of hard knocks probably more than most PhDs
and marketing, you know, most MBAs probably.

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By the time I did seven countries,
I had more experience.

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I was dealing with Walmart, you know.

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I had more experience than most PhDs,
so I think that's the key, you know.

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If you're going to be an entrepreneur, I would
say my career has been as an entrepreneur,

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you have to kind of just say to
yourself, this is what I want to do.

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I have no idea how to do it, but I'm going
to take my first step into the market

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and then maybe three steps later figure
out what the next step you need to take

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and it's not something you can
actually map the whole thing out.

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"The man on the flying trapeze."

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The" roller coaster" goes like this [laughter].

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>> When you're thinking about marketing
and selling, what are you looking

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for in terms of, "Can I sell this?

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Can I market this?

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Is this going to make me a lot
of money like it's made you?"

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What are sort of the things
that you're looking for?

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>> Well, you want to look at marketing trends,
so I could see that I was in the kite business

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and I could see a little boom of yoyos coming.

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And if you have that natural trend turning up,
then you add marketing to it, you'll take off.

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You cannot -- if you're in real estate
and your real estate is going like this,

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that's not a good time to
try and market real estate.

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Okay? If you're going like this and then
you put in marketing, you can really climb.

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So, for me, the natural transition
to anti-aging was a natural one.

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There is about 10,000 people here getting 65
every day, so this is a market that's growing

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and expanding; and so, I could see
immediately anyway the market was there.

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I had to study a little beauty
and that was not my field,

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but I knew that from a marketing standpoint
people spend a lot of money on beauty.

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So, then I said, "Okay.

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It has the potential to make some money,
now we need a system to actually do it

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and maybe that's the part, you know."

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It's sort of like having a system to sell yoyos.

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We need a system.

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>> Yeah.